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Ged Meager21/03/2010 22:30:58
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I suspect I'm not the only one who subscibes to different magazines apart from goodwood, I also subscribe to finewoodworking Today whilst watching one of their free videos I was horrified to see a spindle gouge being used to turn uphill also the long end of a skew point be ing used ti [stab] markout lines also the long end of said skew being used to try and  turn a 'bead' The turner in question was a highly proffesional cabinetmaker But being Americal I was suprised  knowing their habits on suing for anything  he also tried to stop his turning by using his hand as a break after turning the machine off which we all do however this pratt had the pad of his thumb and his thumb lying along the tool rest  which should have resulted in his thumb and meaty part of hand getting trapped between tool rest and work piece.
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Alan T.22/03/2010 07:24:16
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Hello Jed, I saw this too and my first reaction was much like yours. Then I wondered if I was just jealous of his skill. Still have not decided which is the truth.  Alan T.
Dave Atkinson22/03/2010 15:16:46
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I often use the long point of a skew to mark out and turn a bead.   Not sure about turning uphill with a spindle gouge and no one should slow things down by hand - I know we are all guilty of that one though.
Cheers Dave
Sparky22/03/2010 15:55:20
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Hi Ged & Alan, Dave
I've often used the tip of the skew usually for marking out the lines for beads but, I do know he has been doing this for years and you know he has had a lot of practice doing it this way....I bet if he did it the 'right' way (if there is such a thing) he'd dig in all of the time.........old dog, new tricks comes to mind.
Oddjob22/03/2010 17:46:43
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I'm not quite sure what is meant by "a spindle gouge being used to turn uphill."  But I guess it refers to using it on the 'up side' when doing face work?  i.e. at 10 minutes past top dead centre instead of 10 minutes to?  If so, then I can tell you that I have seen this in several videos and also in a book.  I think it might have been a Dave Regester book but I can't be sure.
Personally I see no problem in using the long point of the skew for marking out and after a bit of practice I found it a good way to make beads.  This is also recommended in books.
As stated above, we all, I think, use our hands as brakes but the wise ones don't do it anywhere near to the tool-rest!
Ron Davis22/03/2010 18:03:17
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Hi Ged
Like the ither contributers I use skew and spindle gouge as you described, I agree with the comments a bout stopping the lathe with your hand. The one thing I would love on my lathe is a built in wheel to ebe able to turn the work by hand,
You seem to have started a debate there Ged, which is one of the reasons we have this site. so thanks for that,  we dont have to agree, but think on what is said and make your own mind up.
Alan T.22/03/2010 19:31:17
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Hello Richard. I think he means using a gouge while forming a cove in spindle work & making a complete sweep down one side and up the other. No doubt a practiced art. Alan T
Ged Meager22/03/2010 22:26:16
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Thanks for all the replies for those who want to get fingers and flesh trapped between work and tool rest you'll keep the casualty departments busy beleave me' 22years working in emergency medicine. I've seen enough cuts and chopped of fingers Turning rules are there for a reason ignore them at your peril.They might sow your fungers back on but they never work the same.For those of you who want to turn beads with skews watchRay Jones do it he's fast safe and dont get kickbacks
woodturner ged
Oddjob23/03/2010 08:32:08
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You said
"for those who want to get fingers and flesh trapped between work and tool rest you'll keep the casualty departments busy."
I don't understand why you said that.  No-one here approves of that practice.  In fact some actually condemned it just as you do.

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