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Ralph Harvey17/06/2008 22:35:00
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Mike

As a comlete novice on how and whys of machinary, what is the significance of the wheel size ?

Ralph

Doug18/06/2008 05:59:00
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Ralph

If you are looking for a second hand one, this blue Axminster looks a good one :-

http://crafts.search.ebay.co.uk/bandsaw_Woodworking_W0QQfromZR34QQsacatZ3126

2 days to go, no bids & a £50 reserve.

Going back to Record, if you are looking for new, they offer a 5 year warrenty.

I usually buy second hand,on large machinery, but after buying two duff second hand bandsaws i decided to go for the record.

The problem i found was if guides etc were worn, they are so dear, that unless you got the machine virtually free it wasn`t worth spending the money on it. Also the one machine, you could set up the blade, get it tracking right then after a couple of cuts it needed re-tracking.

In the end i bit the bullet, spent the money & have been very pleased.

The best of luck with your search.

Baz

Ralph Harvey18/06/2008 07:25:00
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Baz  Thanks this is one i am watching long with a Dewalt one just waiting to see what happens as they drawer to a close.

Ralph

Mike Garnham18/06/2008 07:56:00
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Baz,

when you say guides are expensive, are you referring to bearing-type guides? .....because the block guides are very cheap..........nay.........free! 

I tried to buy some new ones for mine from Axminster, and they said they don't bother selling them any more because everyone just cuts their own out of beech.

I did have to buy 2 new bearings for mine (£12 ish total), and that resolved the play in the top wheel.

Ralph,

the wheel size is a measurement of the size of the machine. If you are looking to cut material 6" thick, then you will need a reasonably powerful machine, and it will have to be physically big enough for the timber to fit under the top guides........incidentally, the Ferm you were looking at will only cut 85mm. My 14" machine copes with that size well, so I suggest you go for something similar. Nothing worse than spending money and discovering the machine isn't up to the job.

Incidentally, the main advantage for me is that it occupies such a small floor area....about 2 feet by 2 feet........and they are really quiet in operation.

Mike 

derek willis18/06/2008 09:02:00
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I have an Electra Beckam 150 that I have had for about ten years, (it has now been upgraded to the 155) and I can say it will cut perfectly everytime logs up to 150mm,  veneers of down to 1mm and anything else in between, this machine is the same as the Record and many other makes, as they are all based on the same orignal parts, and is a well tried and trusted design, having been around for a long time.

Derek. 

Olly Parry-Jones18/06/2008 10:57:00
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Ralph, how often do you think you'll be looking to cut do a depth of 150mm? Depending on where you look, a 14" bandsaw can have a maximum cutting height of anything from 180mm to around 220mm. If you're looking to cut 6" deep on a regular basis, therefore working the saw close to its maximum capacities, then you'd probably be better off going for something bigger again, like a 16"-er!

If it's only for the occasional bit of veneer of bowl blank then you'll probably be fine with a 14" machine.

 
sparky wrote (see)
I do like the Axminsters TS-200 as it looks a good solid machine even Fox 200mm at Rutlands looks great but at £400 is way to high for my budget. Again with Charnwoods.

Sparky, don't get me wrong; the Kity original is priced at £400+ but all the others are no more than £300. Unless you're planning on buying a load of extras, of course...

In the January issue of Woodworker however, Gordon Warr gave the Woodstar ST10 table saw 4 out of 5 for both value and performance. It looks like a powerful saw for its size with a 2,000w motor (!!!). To quote Gordon:

"The ST10 handles ripping and bevel cutting with ease, although the 24-tooth blade doesn't give optimum results when cutting and the motor is a bit noisy. This is a compacy portable saw with commendable capacity - ideal for the hobbyist woodworker with restricted workshop space - and is very good value for money."

He also mentions that the rip fence "cam-locks firmly onto a tough front rail.

Andy King18/06/2008 11:30:00
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Hi Ralph,

Wheel size is also a factor on the throat capacity.

Allowing for the fact the blade is travelling inside the throat on the upstroke, the bandwheel diameter will affect the overall distance you can push between it and the downstroke side of the blade, so wider wheels give wider throat capacity.

cheers,

Andy

Sparky18/06/2008 13:51:00
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Olly

Cheers for that.

I was going by the price shown on the links you supplied.........

I'll be searching the net to see whats around with the prices and that give me some time to save..........

if, however, I see one with fluffy dice hanging from the mitre then I'll pay whatever they ask!

Thanks again

Marc

Ralph Harvey18/06/2008 14:46:00
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Thanks all, I will on the whole be cutting nothing bigger than 100mm but on the odd occasion i will need it to cut branches and burrs which could be bigger,

It apears from your comments that i need to look for something like the Electra Beckam that Derek has,

Based on the prices i have seen, it will need to be second hand so just need to find one cheap enough first

Ralph

Olly Parry-Jones18/06/2008 18:30:00
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Yep, it often pays, particularly with bandsaws, to buy something slightly bigger than the size you think you need. That way, you won't be kicking yourself six-months down the line.
Mike Garnham18/06/2008 19:12:00
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Ralph,

mine is an Axminster 350.......not sold any more, but they still have all the parts etc.....look out for one of those on eBay or elsewhere.

Mike 

Ralph Harvey18/06/2008 19:45:00
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Mike, Olly

Thanks i will keep an eye out.

Bought one of them cheap and nasty ones from Aldi, big mistake but couldn't afford anything else at the time !

Still cuts ok.... well as long as you only cut timber up to 20 - 35mm or thick veneer !!!  won't make that mistake again.

Ralph

Woodworker18/06/2008 21:15:00
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Mike Garnham wrote (see)
......then congratulations Ben........and hope it works out really well for you. Presumably you are retaining your role here on GW?
Absolutely Mike, no changes planned here!

sparky wrote (see)
I think this is his baby Mike and doubt he would turn over the controls to anyone!
You've hit the nail on the head Marc.
Ralph Harvey18/06/2008 21:20:00
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Ben

Glad to hear it, I haven't been here long but long enough to realize how important your role is and how serious you take it.

Ralph

Mike Garnham18/06/2008 21:22:00
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Good news.......!

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