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Member postings for Andy King

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Thread: Plane sizes
14/09/2009 23:43:58
Well i'm not an expert on the reasonings, but the 1-8 numbers are loosely based on lengths, the no1 is 5 1/2in long, then from the no2 at 7in, they go up by 1in in length, so the no3 is 8in, and the no4 is 9in (these are rough sizes, I have a no4 that is slightly longer) The Jack or no5 is 14in, then the no6 comes in at 18in, the no7 is 22in and the no8 is 24in.
I was told by my college tutor that the half sizes are more for bench work and have increased width for this. Their lengths mean that they sit in the space between the single figure planes so the 4 1/2 is 10in while the 5 1/2 is 15in. (personally i prefer both the half sizes over the 4 and 5, although I have both of these as well)
 The 1 and two have narrow blades of block plane widths, but the widths are 2in on the 3 & 4 and also the 5.
The half sizes share a 2 3/8 in blade with the 6 and 7, leaving the no8 at 2 5/8in. 
It doesn't give any real indication as to why the sizes used were reached, but again, the longer planes are more for bench work, so wider to suit, much the same as the half sizes.
In the case of the 1 and 2, having held both, i found them way too small for easy use in the normal manner. The no3 i own is also tricky to hold comfortably! The 3 and 4 are maybe close enough to warrant a preference for a smoother, so the jack is logical to step up for a middle ground plane without too much wieght increase, and in similar fashion, the  7 and 8 are close to warrant a choice of weight/width over minimal length increase much the same as the 3&4. The 6 always seems to be the forgotten plane because of it!
Can't say if this is a right assumption, just a few thoughts of my own based on my teachers and the way they are banded in sizes and widths.
Thread: What happens to unsold power tools?
02/09/2009 09:51:00
I might have mislead you slightly there Marc!
My friend doesn't just sell old stock, he buys up some of it that he knows is still in demand or that he knows he can sell.
It's usually when a big launch is being made where he can strike the best deal. Li Ion tools are the best current example, manufacturers go overboard to promote it, so he enquires about picking up the kit that everyone was clamouring for a week before the Li Ion was introduced, and gets great deals that way.
In that respect, he often makes up kits of battery tools to suit the customers needs, so you can mix and match, unlike most manufacturers who offer you a kit of 4 or 5 tools that only three are of any real use.
I've been in his shop where he'll have a drill/driver with three NiCd batteries for instance, and because he's had a good purchase on a NiCd Impact driver because the Li Ion ones are being pushed by the manufacturer, he'll throw the body in for next to nothing as he knows the customer will come back again, and he still makes a profit, albeit smaller than some could do, but he sees the bigger picture of customer loyalty.
He does sell the brand new stuff as well, but because he is so flexible, his customers often come to him because of it. Things like batteries as well. Li Ion ones are extortionate, but he will buy a load of NiMh or NiCd as a stock item, put them in a basket at a knock down price, and they fly out because there are still plenty of people out there with tools that use them, but with Li Ion so expensive to buy into, are loathe to swap over.
You do see electrical goods up for grabs at knock down prices sometimes in similar areas where the new product is launched alongside it, but i try to keep my blinkers on then as i love electronic gadgets and would end up buying them all!
01/09/2009 18:30:31
A friend of mine runs a tool shop in Bristol, specialising mostly in Makita and he goes along to the tool launches for new product and buys up the older stuff at discount prices as it takes a while for the new stuff to filter through, plus he can offer a great deal on the stuff seen as 'old stock'. He does have to go the extra mile in some instances, he's up against Screwfix and at one time B&Q who can offer massive discounts because of their buying power.
He sold around £3/4 million worth of Makita tools last year though, and made a decent profit, so he's doing something right!
Thread: Going Down?
31/08/2009 21:40:26
Hi Marc,
Thanks for the warm welcome!
When you say updates of my work, do you mean what i'm currently working on for the magazine as a sort of teaser to what i'm up to in any particular issue?
I can do that no problem (I just have to remember to do so so if you do want me to do so, and i haven't give me a nudge!)
Baz, I never take things like that personally, you are right in saying that its constructive and you have very valid points, so no worries on that front from me!
Paul, sorry to hear about your problems with the subscription. Hopefully the numbers and contact that Marc has given will get it sorted for you.

Edited By Andy King on 31/08/2009 21:41:13

31/08/2009 16:20:30
Hi Baz,
a fair comment - I do browse the forums and try and make comment on some subjects if possible, but historically, i've found that some forum members are opinionated on how a magazine and those who review for them work, and when I have defended my corner, i have ended up in a battle where the opinions of others against my own factual experience end up getting very heated.
It does make me loathe to post on forums as much as I used to, as it often invariably ends up going back to an opinion on magazines and reviewing policy that is posted which I know to be wrong and therefore I feel i am entitled to defend against.
Even so, I  try to offer help when I can,  but in most instances, i find it best to stand back and let other forum members make comment as I feel i am often seen as the devil in disguise and my opinions or knowledge invalid...
I have to be honest and say this isn't the case on GetWoodworking, the members here are certainly a good bunch of guys (and girls)!
You are correct though, as it is the company website i should maybe comment more on some subjects.
I'm more than happy to do so if members feel its useful, and i'm always available for PM or email if you need specific advice if I haven't seen a particular posting that i could help on.
My email is: or alternatively:
The latter email may be better as the Myhobbystore one tends to lag on re-routing emails as I work remotely to the magazine office.
Thread: Problems with getting Triton
18/06/2009 09:35:31
Hi Daniel,
Sorry for not responding earlier, i've only just picked this thread up.
Anyway, the timing couldn't have been worse for Triton!
I visited Silverline back in October/November time (iirc) after they had taken on the Uk rights to sell Triton.
As we hadn't looked at Triton for a good few years it was the reasoning behind a revisit as it was certainly a good product back then, so worth a look to see how it fared in today's market.
I was also shown a load of new product by the guy from GMC (the parent company) who had flown in from Australia so it all seemed good.
Unfortunately, the week after we printed our feature, GMC went into receivership in Australia, which meant that Silverline had limited stocks and also limited, if any, spares available.
As far as i'm aware, the problem is still not resolved in Australia as they aren't allowing Triton to be sold as a seperate entity, it has to taken on as part of GMC, whih is the stumbling block. (not 100% sure on this, it seems to be the situation as I understand it)
Triton is still a very viable product, so it would be very foolish not to sell it on, so hopefully it will return to the market as they have some very inovative ideas and the products are very good.
The advice given earlier for spares is about the best bet at the moment i'm afraid. If I hear any news on Triton, i'll post it up here.
hope this clarifies a few things.
Thread: Andy King's dovetails!
30/04/2009 22:50:36
Ah well Baz, having had the Official Receder in when I was around 17-18, trying to keep up with trendy haircuts was always tricky!
I'd like to think this is now a fashion statement that I sport...
30/04/2009 20:05:13
No, it was a one off, built to celebrate the voyage John Cabot made, discovering Newfoundland. (I could have gone on that voyage retracing the steps but having done a few initial sea trials, I thought better of it!
It belongs to a trust now, I think Bristol City Council fund part of it, so any repairs needed are made by the trust as far as I 'm aware.
A good link to my village though, I live right on the river Avon and the original pilot 500+ years ago was from here, and when the voyage was retraced his direct decendant, still a pilot, navigated her down ready for the voyage. I was on board then, but jumped ship at Avonmouth!
30/04/2009 16:13:43
No, they are the same, it depends on the  section of the joint. It should be evident if you have it right once the lid has been cut away, showing the angled joint you can see on the glued joint on the black and white pic on the bench.
Although you can't see it, that one had been cut to fit the deck exposing the angled part of the joint.
They guy who ran the job said he wanted double rabbeted DT's and even he couldn't remember how to do them, so it was a quick practice first to make sure it was right! He said you only know once you cut through a tail exposing the true profile, and a sign of quality on any boat with dovetailed hatchcombs.
This pic shows the exposed part through a tail on the one I cut for Good Woodworking:

Edited By Andy King on 30/04/2009 16:14:58

30/04/2009 09:30:57
Thanks guys! I'm certainly no Rob Cosman, they take some time to cut, but as long as i'm methodical I can get decent results.
Can't remember exactly how many dovetails I cut for the boat project, there were about 5 or 6 hatches if I recall, and I did all but one of them, the other was made by Neil Blake (in the pic below) he and his brother Steve are exceptionally talented boat builders from Burnham on Sea. I worked with them for at least two years on this project and learned an incredible amount.
Anyway, as you get further towards the bow or stern the hatches get more complex as the deck curvature and slope has to be accounted for so the joints are cut on the splay to keep the hatch vertical.
Just for an idea of scale, heres a couple of images of me gluing and assembling one of the hatches at that time.
The downside of working on such a fabulous job was being in that shed working with iroko for a long period with no dust extraction. I ended up becoming sensitised to it, so I can't go near the stuff now without getting very bad respiritory and skin reactions from it.

29/04/2009 23:23:16
Hi Marc,
They are all hand cut, so thanks for the compliment!
Don't know if you saw the original article, but that particular joint is a double rabbeted dovetail, used in boatbuilding as it has water integrity from both sides.
I've only done them once before when I worked on this boat
I cut them on the hatchcombings, in iroko with stock of about 18in deep and 2in thick.
That was about 15 years ago, so I had to have a good think to remember exactly how to go about it again!
Don't know if there is a particular secret, like all woodworking its essential to mark up and cut to the waste, and in the case of dovetails, use one component to mark the other, ensuring the cuts are square. At least, that's how I was taught and its done me no harm. I always mark from the tails as well.
Thread: Saw sharpening
29/04/2009 21:20:47
Hi Mark,
nice to know i got someone interested!
I did some sharpening at Ally Plly the last couple of shows, the first time Bruce Manning who does our Q&A section brought a couple along and they were terrible! Sharpened wit the teeth facing backwards, cows, calves, you name it! Sounds like yours may have been sharpened by the same bloke - perhaps he was Japanese!
Anyway, if you are looking for a crosscut pattern tooth you are correct in waht you say, so they should look like this. The shine you can see is on the tooth that is set away from you.

29/04/2009 21:19:11
Hi Mark,
nice to know i got someone interested!
I did some sharpening at Ally Plly the last couple of shows, the first time Bruce Manning who does our Q&A section brought a couple along and they were terrible! Sharpened wit the teeth facing backwards, cows, calves, you name it! Sounds like yours may have been sharpened by the same bloke - perhaps he was Japanese!
Anyway, if you are looking for a crosscut pattern tooth you are correct in waht you say, so they should look like this (if I can remember how to get a picture file inserted!)

14/02/2009 19:06:04
Hi Tony,
The company you are thinking of is Hafix i believe.
They have a website here:
Thread: Good Woodworking Issue 211
13/02/2009 09:14:27
Hi again Ralph,
I've just managed to track down the issue, and the VC4 and VC5 are made in Australia, but its priced in US Dollars. We have omitted the dollar conversion though, so apologies for that.
It is a neat piece of kit, but as I said in the review, it doesn't fair well with certain MDF's or more porous work, the suction power is greatly diminished.
Just for my own peace of mind, i placed it on the bandsaw table and fired it up and I simply couldn't move it a fraction. A piece of ropey MDF hardly bonded to it, I could easily remove it.
However, a long length of sapele attained superb suction, so it's a case of the right material to get the best from it.
12/02/2009 22:39:38
Oops, should have added, I always supply a conversion to UK Sterling with the review of anything that is an overseas product, but it may be this has been omitted on this occasion for some reason.
12/02/2009 22:37:07
Hi Ralph,
I haven't got the issue to hand, but it should be priced in American dollars as it was supplied by Lee Valley. (I know they are Canadian, but the American Dollar is easier and they list both currencies)
I've just had a quick look via Google and it looks like Axminster sell the same piece of kit, so it is available here which should save on shipping and import duties(should you be unlucky and get charged for the duty!)
Thread: The International Woodworking Exhibition 2009
08/02/2009 20:59:56
Well apologies on that front Ben, as you know I got waylaid again talking saw sharpening for most of the day - I did try and get across, honest!
Have to say it was a cracking looking bus stop though!
Still managed to get a bit of honing advice in for some of the visitors over the weekend as well, so came home with my customary bald forearms once again...
24/11/2008 10:34:00
Or it would be if i could get the images to upload! bear with me!!! Ah, sorted!!!

24/11/2008 10:33:00
Hi all, been sworn to secrecy on this one until today, but boy has it been worth the wait! Veritas have announced two new planes today, the DX60 and the NX60. Both are low angle block planes, both having the same design attributes, but the NX60 is the Premium plane, made from a ductile cast iron with high nickel content to give it rust resistance and highly polished look. Take it from me, this plane is stunning to look at and even better to use! I've sent Ben some images and the official PDF press releases which he'll post up later, but he's a quick taster of what they look like. cheers, Andy
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